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Nick
11-03-2009, 01:48 AM
I've been trying to get an even coat on some vehicle parts of a transformer for quite some time now, and have finally adopted the spray painting in a box technique, but I've come across a new problem. The color I'm trying to use is apparently semi-transparent (testors candy red enamel spray) and after the first couple of coats I noticed there were dark spots were from imperfections in the brush coats I had previously attempted. To compensate for this, I tried to brush some touch ups on those spots so they would blend, but after a couple more spray coats I just had bright spots...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/NicktheBushman/74221a99.jpg

(The discrepancy is more pronounced than the pictures make it seem)

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/NicktheBushman/f5689a92.jpg

So my question is, is there an easy way to fix this without having to strip the pieces and start over with a better base coat?

enclinedesigns
11-03-2009, 02:32 AM
working with candies is rather unique. The more coats you put the darker it will get. So just one uneven stroke can leave streaks and weird spots. Then if you spray, same thing..

I can't really tell what is going on in the pictures though.

Nick
11-03-2009, 02:44 AM
working with candies is rather unique. The more coats you put the darker it will get. So just one uneven stroke can leave streaks and weird spots. Then if you spray, same thing..

I can't really tell what is going on in the pictures though.

Well, what I did was sand the brush coats to make them smooth, then tried to lay the spray over it, but the spots in the undercoat that got a little too sanded showed through as dark spots. the brush strokes actually didn't end up being a problem after a few coats of the spray because of the darkening factor that you mentioned, but the darkening is what prevents me from just coating the shit out of it to mask the areas that were sanded and that I later touched up with too bright of a red. So, although the pictures don't really represent my problem well (couldn't get it to focus any closer...), what's happening is my touch ups are showing through the candy spray as an obviously brighter red sloppy-brush-touch-up. I have considered trying to mix a darker red and touch it up again, or maybe spray some of the candy into something and touch up the spots with a brush and some of that, but I don't really know if it would work. The pisser is, I've pretty much got all the robot parts finished nicely, and the vehicle parts keep dogging me from one angle or another because they have to be glossy and flawless to work out. I figure I'm probably going to have to give in and strip it, base coat it properly, and then spray it all over again, I just was hoping somebody might have the magic tip to save me the trouble...

MacrossFa19
11-03-2009, 07:24 AM
To be honest your best bet, is to remove all the paint, and start over. Candy colors, transparents, aren't meant to be brushed on.

Nick
11-03-2009, 06:40 PM
To be honest your best bet, is to remove all the paint, and start over. Candy colors, transparents, aren't meant to be brushed on.

Damn. Yeah, I was afraid it would come to that.

Nick
11-04-2009, 02:47 AM
Yeah, I'm gonna bust out the oven cleaner tonight I think. Good eye btw Dub! :) A G1 repaint of Ironhide isn't the most original idea probably, but I was so dissatified with him I figured I couldn't make him much worse than he already was. I'll get the truck parts right this time and hopefully you guys will be seeing him around here soon.

Nick
11-04-2009, 10:01 AM
Hehe, ive done a few of those myself so the parts are burnt into my memory.

Oven cleaner though? Is that safe? Dont you have some alcohol its much safer.

Yeah, the oven cleaner was recommended to me and I've tried it since. It's not 100% safe depending on the type of plastic and how long you let it sit I think, but it hasn't failed me yet. If you mean physically safer for a human, you're definitely right! I've got a little alcohol left though, so maybe I'll try that beforehand.

Anovasinn
11-05-2009, 06:02 PM
LOL why is everyone so afraid of oven cleaner. The main thing is not breathing it in. toss the parts in a ziplock bag spray let sit. For now i have not found a transformer plastic it wrecks. Granted alcohol is safer allot more work though.

As far as candies encline nailed it. personally i like testors rattle can candies, but they are a bitch to master. Once you do though it improves all your painting from flats to deep high gloss. I know how to use the stuff and still mess up fairly often kinda like walking a tight rope